Kathryn and Kate open up about the inner workings of their relationship while Kate wrote her latest book, ALL THE COLORS CAME OUT, and the pair brings on Kate’s mom while the show is rolling. (Oh, oh, and many jokes are had about the size of Kate’s ego!)

Welcome to world of Popisho! Kate and Kathryn muse about magic, and why and when we lose our connection with it, then author Leone Ross (POPISHO) reassures Kathryn to stick to her magical guns. Leone shares what her “cors” (magical ability) would be, how to return to the flow of creativity, permission to understand strangeness, and by the end of the show, has Kathryn and Producer Lindsay in tears. Oh, and get ready to learn about pum pums.

And today … we have the NYT bestselling author of IN FIVE YEARS, Rebecca Serle! Rebecca chats about the difference in writing for the page vs. the silver screen, writing as a means to figure out your life, and why she is focusing on being present for success. Kathryn and Kate open with a comedy of errors on astrological signs.

Kate and Kathryn are shocked to discover they have a blind spot related to ice cream (they ask for listener feedback!), then they welcome Sarah Penner — author of the debut NYT bestseller THE LOST APOTHECARY — a page-turning novel set between modern day London and 1791 about a woman who secretly dispenses poisons to liberate women from the men who have wronged them.

Kate and Kathryn have a mind meld about what their joint pen name would be, then the duo chats with British married author duo Ellery Lloyd (whose debut novel PEOPLE LIKE HER is like Gone Girl with a momstagram account!) about writing with your partner and how they gleaned all their smart insights about social media.

Kathryn quizzes Kate on the mythical origins of some well-known idioms (spill the beans, anyone?), then the duo are joined by BBC host and bestselling author Natalie Haynes (A THOUSAND SHIPS) who shares why the classics are for EVERYONE!

Kate and Kathryn plumb the mysteries of the allure of novels set at boarding schools with Ellie Eaton, debut author of THE DIVINES. The trio also discusses what motivates Ellie to sit down and write, and how, in England, your accent (posh!) reveals a whole lot about you. Oh, plus, K&K discuss their takeaway from the Pixar movie, Soul

Luvvie, goddess of cheekbones, truth and jollof is in the house and she’s here to talk about her newest book, PROFESSIONAL TROUBLE MAKER: THE FEAR-FIGHTER MANUAL. We discuss what it means to fail loudly, speaking truth, being human, the fear of success, and most importantly, why everyone needs their own hype mantra.

THEY’RE BACK for Season ... 4? Kate and KB sit down with debut author Genevieve Gornichec to talk about writing an epic saga, Kathryn and Genevieve’s mutual love for Norse mythology, should YOU watch Vikings, and what it means to be a Nordic Re-enactor, plus Kate hits Kathryn with the list of Free Cookies notes they built up during the off-season.

In this year’s Free Cookies finale (🎉), Kate and Kathryn are joined by Emily M. Danforth — author of PLAIN BAD HEROINES and THE MISEDUCATION OF CAMERON POST — to discuss the inspiration for her ambitious new novel and how every creative project has its own timetable.