Backpacker Radio
Backpacker Radio
The Trek
From the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking. Co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
Girl Stuff 3.0: Hiking as a New Mom, Pink Blazing, and Fear Mongering
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are bringing you another edition of Girl's Stuff! Today, Chaunce along with guest panelists, Rachael "Rabbit" Delano and Marie "Basecamp" Black answer your burning questions related to female-specific topics in the backcountry. Topics including the feasibility of bringing a vibrator, how to court a guy during a thru-hike (and advice for guys on how to do the courting), female urination devices, the Kula Cloth, what body parts get the razor treatment and which parts are neglected, managing a period on trail and birth control options, how to deal with fear and fear mongering, trail family dynamics, and much much more. We wrap the show with the top stoves, filters, and rain gear from the AT, which is more exciting between new school supplies and new backpacking gear, the triple crown of nicknames that get your goat, and more. Mountainsmith: Use code “TREKZERK24” for 40% off at mountainsmith.com. Danner: Use code “TREK15” for 15% off Mountain 600 boots at danner.com. Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. Shady Rays: Use code “TREK20” for $20 off polarized sunglasses at shadyrays.com. [divider] Panel with Rachel “Rabbit” Delano and Marie “Basecamp” Black Rabbit's Instagram Backpacker Radio 113 | Rachael “Rabbit” Delano Basecamp's Instagram Wes and Marie Black on Sex During a Thru-Hike, Hiking the PCT as a Married Couple, and Arguing on Trail (BPR #240) Time stamps & Questions 00:04:53 - Reminders: Apply to blog for the Trek or become a Trek Ambassador! 00:06:32 - Introducing Rachel 00:08:28 - Introducing Basecamp 00:13:27 - Should I bring my travel size vibrator? 00:21:30 - Discussion about pink blazing 00:29:50 - Is it a turnoff to be in a situation where you have to make the first move? 00:33:00 - Discussion about sharing a hotel bed 00:38:30 - What are your tells if you’re interested in someone on trail? 00:44:00 - Which is the better trail for hooking up? 00:48:15 - Do micro clues still apply on trail? 00:51:54 - What’s your strategy for managing periods on trail? 00:59:00 - Discussion about iron supplements 01:00:50 - How do you deal with feeling weak while on your period? 01:03:07 - Chaunce’s strategy 01:07:25 - Chaunce’s Foothills Trail story 01:20:20 - Anything else period related? 01:23:30 - Discussion about shaving 01:33:15 - Have you ever tried or used a pee funnel? 01:44:00 - How do you prevent UTIs on trail if you’re prone to them? 01:50:00 - Do you use Kula Cloths? 01:56:35 - Discussion about fear mongering 02:11:00 - Discussion about mansplaining 02:16:23 - How can girls be fearless on trail? 02:25:20 - Have your fears changed or lessened since you first started thru-hiking? 02:29:00 - How do you manage backpacking and hiking as a mom? 02:33:13 - How did you come to terms with the fact that your backpacking will forever be different? 02:35:00 - Are there ways to make the transition to motherhood smoother as a hiker? 02:37:57 - Do you find that people interact with you differently on trail? 02:39:00 - Would you advise couples Triple Crown before kids if that’s their goal? 02:41:38 - Discussion about girl relationships on trail 02:53:45 - What are the best bras for long hikes? 03:04:20 - Have you ever tasted your own milk? Segments Trek Propaganda: Top Stoves, Filters, Rain Gear, and More on the Appalachian Trail: 2023 Thru-Hiker Survey by Kate Richard QOTD: What is better: brand new backpacking gear or new school supplies? Triple Crown of names you don’t like being called Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Hailey Buckingham , Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Jason “Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S.
Mar 25
3 hr 45 min
Maggie "Honey Badger" Slepian on Suffering, Stubbornness, and Misogyny on Trail
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Maggie Slepian aka Honey Badger. Maggie is the former Managing Editor at The Trek and their first full-time employee, a thru-hiker, and a prolific freelance writer and editor. We learn all about Maggie’s treks, including her hikes of the AT, Ouachita Trail, Colorado Trail, some recent postcard hikes in Madeira and Malta, and Maggie shares what it was like to have her first “failed” thru-hike attempt on the Arizona Trail. We also chat about nude modeling, what it’s like to have an article to mega-viral, and how misogyny in the backcountry has improved since her first thru-hike. We wrap the show with some Hitchhiking Advice for Women, we learn how common or uncommon it is to be able to unfocus your eyesight on command, and the triple crown of one-hit wonder songs featuring Chaunce's boyfriend Garrett.  Mountainsmith: Use code “TREKZERK24” for 40% off at mountainsmith.com. Danner: Use code “TREK15” for 15% off Mountain 600 boots at danner.com. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. Appalachian Gear Company: Use code “BPRADIO20” for 20% off at appalachiangearcompany.com. Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. [divider] Interview with Maggie “Honey Badger” Slepian Instagram  Website Substack Backpacking Routes  Time stamps & Questions 00:05:05 - Reminders: Apply to blog for the Trek or become a Trek Ambassador and use code “gingerstuff” for an exclusive discount at the Trek’s store! 00:06:35 - Introducing Maggie 00:09:12 - How did you get involved with the Trek? 00:14:06 - Tell us about nude modeling 00:19:55 - How did the AT fall on your map? 00:21:25 - What gear did you bring on the AT for your first hike? 00:24:08 - Tell us about hiking the trail with a partner and the way people perceived you 00:28:45 - What were your top honey badger moments? 00:30:49 - How have you seen misogyny in the backcountry change over time? 00:37:08 - Are you more or less spicy in business or personally? 00:40:00 - Tell us about hiking the Ouachita Trail in 2020 00:46:19 - What considerations did you make when picking which direction to hike? 00:48:50 - What type of preparation did you do for the Ouachita Trail? 00:52:29 - Tell us the highlights of the Ouachita Trail 00:54:14 - Discussion of the Ouachita Trail logistics and resupplies 00:56:30 - Story about meeting Warren Doyle 00:58:27 - What’s the best season for this trail? 00:59:11 - What portions of the Oregon Coast Trail have you done? 01:01:01 - Any highlights from the Colorado Trail? 01:02:27 - Tell us about the Arizona Trail 01:06:39 - Discussion about sun poisoning 01:12:06 - Do you feel liberated because you quit the Arizona Trail? 01:17:27 - Tell us about Madeira 01:23:14 - How many of the hikes are approachable for someone with a fear of exposure? 01:24:18 - What other European treks did you do? 01:27:27 - Tell us about your most viral article 01:32:47 - What other articles of yours have gone viral? 01:37:00 - Discussion about being recognized in the real world 01:41:20 - How do you handle your privacy? 01:43:50 - What’s your experience with hunting? Segments Trek Propaganda: After 9,500 Miles on Trail, Here’s My Top Hitchhiking Advice for Women by Peg Leg QOTD: Can you unfocus your eyesight on command? Triple Crown of one hit wonder songs Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Hailey Buckingham , Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Jason “Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S.
Mar 18
2 hr 7 min
Kelly "Ibex" Floro on the Pyrenean Haute Route, Budgeting for a Thru-Hike, and Being the Trek's Managing Editor
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by The Trek’s Managing Editor, Kelly “Ibex” Floro. We learn all about what it’s like to have Zach as a boss, Kelly’s top tips for how to afford a thru-hike, and she shares insights from her own thru-hiking adventures including the AT, Wind River High Route, and we dive especially deep into Kelly’s most recent thru-hike of the Pyrenean Haute Route through the Pyrenees, straddling the border between Spain and France. Kelly gives us an in-depth run-through of this epic route, including when to hike, which direction, navigation challenges, resupply strategy, the various geographic highlights, the culture surrounding the trail, and much more. We wrap the show with useful smartphone apps for your next thru-hike, how Zach got concussed recording a podcast, and the triple crown of short off-season thru-hikes. Mountainsmith: Use code “TREKZERK24” for 40% off at mountainsmith.com. Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. Appalachian Gear Company: Use code “BPRADIO20” for 20% off at appalachiangearcompany.com. [divider] Interview with Kelly Floro Kelly's Trek bio Time stamps & Questions 00:05:15 - Reminders: Get your tickets for a live BPR podcast in Denver on April 23, support us on Patreon, and suggest a potential guest who will be at Trail Days this year! 00:09:15 - Introducing Kelly 00:12:27 - How do you like working for Zach? 00:17:55 - How did you start thru-hiking? 00:19:52 - At what point did you consider yourself a good writer? 00:20:30 - Do you have tips for someone who wants to blog their hike? 00:25:45 - Was the AT your first backpacking trip? 00:27:12 - What did you learn on that hike? 00:29:45 - What were you thinking about career wise when you hiked the AT? 00:32:40 - When did you realize you wanted to do more thru-hikes? 00:33:15 - What surprised you despite all the preparation you did? 00:36:20 - Tell us about dealing with poison ivy on the AT 00:41:27 - Discussion about flip flopping the AT 00:45:24 - Do you have tips for someone considering a flip flop hike on the AT? 00:51:00 - Would you recommend flip flopping the AT? 00:55:20 - Tell us about hiking the Colorado Trail 00:57:22 - Tell us about the Wind River High Route 00:59:23 - What are the differences between the two route options? 01:02:55 - What’s the most challenging part of the Adventure Alan route? 01:05:45 - What tips would you give to someone who wants to try backcountry navigation? 01:09:20 - What navigational resources were available for the route? 01:11:14 - How much did you enjoy this style of hiking? 01:12:38 - Any non obvious advice for the Wind River High Route? 01:15:00 - Tell us about the Pyrenean Haute Route 01:20:00 - Discussion about the refuges on the HRP 01:21:48 - How and why did you choose this route? 01:24:55 - Which direction do you hike? 01:27:11 - What were the standout towns? 01:32:09 - How crowded was the trail? 01:35:14 - What do the resupplies look like? 01:40:40 - Tell us about the wine you had along the HRP 01:41:42 - Are there any ‘must zero’ places? 01:43:27 - Can you describe the Pyrenean mountains? 01:45:53 - Tell us the story about throwing your phone off a cliff 01:48:22 - How did you manage the rest of your gear for your Europe trip? 01:50:20 - Tell us about Bulgaria 01:53:05 - Have you heard of the Peaks of the Balkans trail? 01:54:49 - What do you have for health insurance in Europe? 01:56:18 - What have you learned while traveling in Europe? 01:57:25 - What are your current big 5 gear items? 01:59:20 - What gear has surprised you recently? 02:00:20 - What goes into a standout gear review? 02:01:40 - What stands out to you about thru-hiking affordably? 02:04:27 - What are some of your favorite hidden gems in Olympic National Park? Segments Trek Propaganda: 13 Useful Smartphone Apps for Your Next Thru-Hike by Danielle Krolewicz QOTD: What’s the longest: a microwave minute, a hangover minute, or a treadmill minute? Stupid Thing of the Week Triple Crown of short thru-hikes you can do in the offseason Plug Me: Brew Davis's Website Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Jason “Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
Mar 11
2 hr 46 min
Chaunce Hiked the Foothills Trail! Terrain, Difficulty, Hiking with a Dog, and Gear
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, Chaunce hiked the Foothills Trail! With Chaunce being just a few days removed from this 76-mile gem of a hike, the trail is fresh on her mind, and she provides us a detailed rundown of her experience and standout stories, the trail's many highlights, how it was doing this trek with Harper, a full overview of her gear, an encounter with a zombie ghost, and all the nitty gritty logistics one could dream of having heading into this waterfally, bridgey hike in the Carolinas. We wrap the show with what our old person traits are, a triple crown of non-toilet paper items to wipe your bung with on trail, 36 east coast trails you can hike, and some details about an upcoming live podcast. Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. Jenna Davis: Email jenna@firstsummitrealty.com or call 303-946-9476 to get a free consultation. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. Appalachian Gear Company: Use code “BPRADIO20” for 20% off at appalachiangearcompany.com. Gossamer Gear: Use code “DINGLEBERRY” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  [divider] Interview with Chaunce! Time stamps & Questions 00:04:05 - Reminders: Mark your calendars for a BPR live podcast in Denver on April 23, leave a 5 star review on Apple and email us to get a BPR sticker, and recommend a guest who will be at Trail Days! 00:08:50 - Why did Chaunce hike the Foothills Trail? 00:12:00 - How was the weather? 00:14:55 - What’s the background of the Foothills Trail? 00:16:48 - How did you get to the trail, logistically? 00:19:35 - Discussion about the costs of the trail 00:25:00 - Discussion about getting to the trail 00:27:33 - Which direction did you hike? 00:32:42 - What was the terrain like? 00:34:20 - Can you camp wherever? 00:35:30 - Discussion about expectations versus reality for the hiking difficulty 00:37:22 - Discussion about day 2 of hiking 00:38:18 - Any notable highlights from the first couple days of trail? 00:41:00 - Discussion about wildlife 00:46:45 - Discussion about the bridges and stairs 00:51:23 - Discussion about Chaunce’s massage 00:53:15 - Why didn’t you bring a rain jacket? 00:54:30 - Tell us about hiking with Harper 00:57:10 - How crowded was the trail? 01:02:08 - What was the resupply situation like? 01:05:05 - Who would you recommend the Foothills Trail to? 01:07:38 - Discussion about the road walks 01:08:34 - Discussion about waterfalls 01:11:30 - Discussion about how challenging the hike was 01:14:50 - Any good poop stories? 01:15:50 - What were your favorite waterfalls and bridges? 01:16:40 - Would you describe the Foothills Trail as flat? 01:17:20 - Discussion about the gear Chaunce carried 01:33:18 - Discussion about Harper’s gear Segments Trek Propaganda: 36 East Coast Trails That Aren’t the Appalachian Trail by Diane Duffard QOTD: What’s your old person trait? Stupid Thing of the Week Triple Crown of items to wipe your bung with Plug Me Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Jason “Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Hailey Buckingham, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S.
Mar 4
2 hr 1 min
Q&A: Backpacking with a Gun, Crush It Syndrome, Overrated Gear, Emotionally Draining Trail Experiences, and More
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are bringing back another edition of Q&A. Today we’re joined by our pal and chronic thru-hiker and adventurer, Steven “Twinkle” Shattuck to answer your burning trail-related questions. Today’s episode covers a wide range of topics, including the feasibility and necessity of carrying a gun while backpacking, the dangers of “crush it syndrome” in light of Christopher Roma’s recent tragic passing, Twinkle's top trails from around the world, the most overrated piece of gear, how we prevent blisters, and much more. Simply put, if you like your Qs being A’d, you have stumbled upon the right episode. We wrap the show with the top sleeping bags, quilts, and pads from the AT last year, the top home theft suggestions to mildly inconvenience your victim, and the triple crown of foods that are way better or worse when homemade. Jenna Davis: Email jenna@firstsummitrealty.com or call 303-946-9476 to get a free consultation. Gossamer Gear: Use code “DINGLEBERRY” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. [divider] Panel with Steven “Twinkle” Shattuck Twinkle's Instagram Backpacker Radio Episode #6: Steven “Twinkle” Shattuck on Dirt-Bagging for a Year, The Best Headlamps for Thru-Hiking, and Curing Anxiety on Trail Backpacker Radio 61 | Grace and Steven “Twinkle” Shattuck on Their 15 Month Dirtbagging Adventure Time stamps & Questions 00:02:50 - Bid on our Tyvek wall until February 29, apply to be a blogger, and support us on Patreon! 00:05:22 - Introducing Twinkle 00:08:30 - Crush It Syndrome - check out Skurka’s article, Christopher Roma: Learning to turn back 00:28:17 - Backpacking with a gun 00:53:45 - Twinkle’s top 3 trail recommendations in the world 00:57:11 - Twinkle’s favorite international hikes 01:00:40 - What’s the most overrated piece of gear? 01:14:53 - How do you stay safe from ticks while outside? How much do you worry about them? (Check out episode 200 to learn more about Lyme disease) 01:22:50 - If you had to do a medium length trail (100-500 miles) this year, which one would it be? (Check out Eloise Robbin’s article, The Best Time of Year to Hike These 23 Popular Long Trails and Swami’s website, The Hiking Life) 01:29:51 - As a future dad, how do you instill both an interest and a respect for nature in young kids? (Check out episode 152 to hear Nancy East discuss this topic) 01:37:48 - What is your daily routine for foot care to prevent blisters while doing big miles? 01:42:30 - Can you tell us about your most emotionally draining experience on trail? 01:52:11 - What brand of instant coffee will help you poop the best? 01:53:58 - How does someone get into canyoneering? Where do you begin? 01:55:56 - What is the best 311 song or album? Segments Trek Propaganda: The Top Sleeping Bags, Quilts, and Pads on the Appalachian Trail: 2023 Thru-Hiker Survey by Kate Richard  QOTD: You’re a burglar but you can only steal things that mildly inconvenience your victims. What are you taking? Triple Crown of foods that are way better or worse when homemade Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Ironhike endurance productions, Jason “Snail” Snailer, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Hailey Buckingham, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S.
Feb 26
2 hr 27 min
Kevin "The Animal" Koski on the 2,300-Mile Four Corners Loop
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek we are joined by Kevin Koski, known on trail as “The Animal.” Kevin is the man behind the Four Corners Loop, a new 2,300 mile route circling the four corners region across Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and New Mexico. We learn all about this route and Kevin’s hike, including how he mapped it, his favorite stretches of trail, his favorite towns- which he saw as a standout feature of the trek, some very entertaining stories, and Kevin’s vision for this one day becoming a national scenic trail. Kevin is an engaging storyteller, you think you’ll really enjoy this one. We wrap the show by teasing some news about a live podcast we’ll be putting on in Denver this spring, words we think would make pretty baby names if not for the meaning already attached to it, the triple crown of tips to improve sleep on trail, and a new cinnamon court on whether a listeners method of cleaning their hands with spitwater is sanitary. Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. Gossamer Gear: Use code “DINGLEBERRY” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  [divider] Interview with Kevin “the Animal” Koski Four Corners Loop Association Website Four Corners Loop Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:04:17 - Reminders: Live podcast in Denver is in the works, the hair wall launches TODAY, get exclusive content on Patreon, and sign up for BPR’s email list to get a free sticker! 00:08:04 - Introducing Kevin 00:10:27 - What’s your background in the outdoors? 00:14:26 - Tell us about your CDT hike in 2004 00:17:06 - What’s the story behind your trail name? 00:18:51 - What’s the most luxurious thing in your pack? 00:20:04 - What was the CDT like in 2004? 00:23:20 - What accounted for the big gap between the CDT and PCT? 00:26:08 - Tell us what made the PCT a “walking party”? 00:29:25 - How did you transition from the main trails to doing more isolated ones? 00:32:42 - How did you plan the specific Four Corners Loop route? 00:37:40 - Did you plan it to be a trail others could replicate? 00:39:30 - Tell us more details about the route 00:44:40 - Discussion about the Arizona portion of the route 00:46:00 - Discussion about the Utah portion of the route 00:48:30 - Discussion about the trail magic along the route 00:51:18 - What was the typical length of your water carries? 00:54:00 - Continuation of the Utah portion of the route 00:58:58 - Discussion about resupplies and pacing along the route 01:02:20 - Discussion about hiking into Colorado 01:05:10 - Story about almost falling off a cliff and rerouting the trail 01:06:30 - Discussion about the Colorado portion of the route 01:10:50 - Discussion about hiking from Salida to New Mexico 01:14:04 - How much of the trail was road walking? 01:14:30 - Discussion about the New Mexico portion of the route 01:17:33 - What was your typical water source in the dry sections? 01:20:17 - What’s the optimal weather window for this trail? 01:22:15 - Discussion about cell service along the route 01:23:20 - What was your favorite trail town in each state? 01:24:16 - Is the route well outlined enough for someone else to follow? 01:25:44 - What are some of your standout stories from hiking? 01:29:03 - What one week stretch of this trail would you relive or eliminate? 01:32:10 - Do you have tips for someone getting into route finding? 01:33:30 - How much of this route is on no trail at all? 01:34:24 - Tell us your best poop story 01:35:41 - Where can people go to keep up with you? Segments Trek Propaganda: Top Tents and Shelters on the Appalachian Trail: 2023 Thru-Hiker Survey by Kate Richard QOTD: Which word do you think would make a pretty baby name if it didn’t mean what it meant? Triple Crown of things that improve your sleep on trail Cinnamon Court 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Ironhike endurance productions, Jason “Snail” Snailer, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Hailey Buckingham, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S.
Feb 19
2 hr 13 min
Wes and Marie Black on Sex During a Thru-Hike, Hiking the PCT as a Married Couple, and Arguing on Trail
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are once again loving love. That's right, it's the 4th edition of our Valentine's Day-themed show. Today we catch up with Wesley and Marie Black, known on trail as Yeti Legs and Basecamp. Less than two years after meeting, they were not only married but together taking on a thru-hike of the PCT. Wesley and Marie pull no punches in sharing the nitty-gritty of making a relationship work during a thru-hike and are especially candid about their on-trail sex life including their hygiene practices, foreplay, what they use for lubrication, best positions in a tent, and more. This one is entertaining, enlightening, and slightly erotic. Strap in. We wrap the show with what we would do if we could be our significant other for a day, the triple crown of petty fights we have with our partners, Marie shares a plastic melting shit story, and Chaunce has a very dumb stupid thing of the week. Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. Gossamer Gear: Use code “DINGLEBERRY” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  [divider] Interview with Wes & Marie Wes & Marie's Instagram Wes & Marie's Linktree Time stamps & Questions 00:04:55 - Reminders: Last call to apply for the BPR internship, Tyvek wall goes on sale next week, and the Badger Sponsorship launched today! 00:09:35 - Introducing Wes & Marie 00:11:40 - Story of how Wes & Marie met 00:14:30 - When did you get engaged? 00:19:42 - Did you have any concerns about getting engaged so quickly? 00:24:00 - Did you have any doubts in the first six months? 00:26:01 - Do you have baby fever? 00:28:53 - What led to deciding to thru-hike together? 00:32:05 - What outdoor experience did you have before meeting each other? 00:35:30 - How did you transition from running to hiking? 00:38:16 - When did you realize you had a lot of heavy gear? 00:40:30 - What was it like hiking in a high snow year? 00:43:28 - How did your mileage change between the desert and the Sierras? 00:44:50 - What did you learn about each other on the PCT you didn’t know before? 00:50:40 - How did you handle the time stress? 00:56:20 - Tell us about your career in film 01:01:25 - What were your best fights on trail? 01:13:20 - What other tips do you have for couples on trail? 01:15:12 - What’s your sex life like on trail? 01:18:32 - What are your tips for having great sex on trail? 01:24:27 - Did you bring any toys? 01:26:00 - Why didn’t you have sex during the day? 01:27:23 - Did you take any of your PCT lessons into the Tour du Mont Blanc or the CT? 01:29:24 - Raise the shoe game! 01:47:44 - Tell us about the Colorado Trail hike 01:52:50 - Fuck Marry Kill: PCT, TMB, CT 01:54:40 - Will you share one of your favorite hidden gem hikes? 01:56:11 - Tell us about your podcast 01:58:35 - Tell us about how you met Dirt Diva Segments Trek Propaganda: The Ultimate Guide to Thru-Hiking Electronics by Alex “GPS” Brown QOTD: If you could wake up and be your significant other for a day, what would you do that day? Stupid Thing of the Week Triple Crown of petty fights you have with your partner Gross or Not Gross Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Ironhike endurance productions, Jason “Snail” Snailer, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Hailey Buckingham, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S.
Feb 12
3 hr 17 min
Bailey "PseudoSloth" Bremner on the Columbine Route, Creating Her Own Routes, and Backpacking with Dogs
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Bailey “PseudoSloth” Bremner. In addition to hikes of the CDT, Great Divide Trail, Pinhoti, and Benton Mackaye, we do a deep dive on a pair of custom routes that Bailey mapped out herself. The Columbine Route, which crosses the full length of Colorado, and another custom route extending all the way from Canada to Mexico, both of which she completed with her two dogs by her side. We learn all about the specifics of these routes, the tools and strategies she used to design them, the various geographical high and lowlights, her favorite stories from these hikes, and how she manages this unconventional style of trekking alongside her pair of pups. We wrap the show with a follow-up on the technical glitches iPhone users experienced with FarOut's app this year, the number of owls we'd have to see in a day before we knew something was wrong, and the triple crown of words we will never be able to spell correctly. Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. Gossamer Gear: Use code “DINGLEBERRY” for 20% off packs at gossamergear.com.  LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. [divider] Interview with Bailey “PseudoSloth” Bremner Bailey's Instagram Bailey's Youtube Time stamps & Questions 00:03:50 - Reminders: Apply to be a BPR intern or a Trek blogger! 00:06:40 - Introducing Bailey 00:09:20 - What’s your background? 00:10:42 - Tell us about your dogs! 00:12:11 - How important is cleaning their teeth? 00:13:07 - How do you accommodate your hiking for your smaller dog? 00:15:05 - What does your daily mileage look like? 00:17:40 - What do you do for their feet during your hikes? 00:19:14 - What changes did you make to your dogs’ gear and food? 00:23:05 - How much weight are you typically carrying? 00:25:43 - What type of treats and toys do you bring for the dogs? 00:28:00 - Tell us your trail resume 00:29:22 - How did you decide to hike the Great Divide Trail after the Colorado Trail? 00:31:27 - Can you give us a brief overview of the Great Divide Trail? 00:33:18 - Did you have any points where you felt in over your head? 00:36:15 - What do you like about less conventional hikes? 00:39:04 - What advice does an orienteering class include? 00:41:52 - Discussion about creating routes using Gaia 00:42:52 - Tell us about hiking your custom 750-mile loop 00:48:15 - How did you come up with the Columbine Route’s name? 00:49:08 - What takeaways from your first custom route did you bring to the Columbine Route? 00:50:20 - How do your dogs handle blowdowns? 00:51:16 - Give us an overview of the Columbine Route 00:57:30 - How much of the trail is trail, roads, or bushwacking? 01:00:41 - Have you thought about tweaking the route at all? 01:02:24 - Do the dogs get any special town treats? 01:03:08 - Any parting thoughts about the Columbine Route and general route finding? 01:05:00 - What section of the Columbine Route would you want to relive? 01:08:12 - Discussion about pace and timing 01:11:54 - Tell us about the inspiration and planning for your custom Mexico to Canada route 01:17:22 - What percent of the route was on road? 01:19:25 - Do you have any scary road stories? 01:20:35 - Did you do the Arizona Trail besides the Grand Canyon section? 01:23:39 - Do you have any good wildlife or spooky stories? 01:27:35 - Tell us the bat story! 01:33:04 - Any other standout stories? Segments Trek Propaganda How FarOut’s 2023 Glitches Highlight the Drawbacks of Backcountry Tech Reliance by Maggie Slepian The Top Footwear on the Appalachian Trail: 2023 Thru-Hiker Survey by Kate Richard QOTD: How many owls would you have to see in a singular day before you knew something was wrong? Triple Crown of words you will never be able to spell correctly Mail Bag 5 Star [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Ironhike endurance productions, Jason “Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Hailey Buckingham, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S
Feb 5
1 hr 59 min
David "Moondog" Roop on Thru-Skating the Florida Trail and Natchez Trace Trail
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by David “Moondog” Roop. Moondog, alongside his buddy, has done the Natchez Trace Trail, Florida Trail, and 500 miles through New Mexico, not on foot, but instead on skateboard which he refers to as a thru-skate. We learn all about what goes into such a unique adventure, including how his gear differs relative to traditional backpacking, what terrain is skateboardable and what isn’t, how sore his push muscles get over the course of a full day of skateboarding, and more. We wrap the show with the first edition of the 2023 AT thru-hiker survey results, the weirdest things we’ve brought home after a night out, and our triple crown of campaign promises. Sawyer Products: Check out Sawyer’s Permethrin Pump at REI. Gossamer Gear: Use code “DINGLEBERRY” for 20% off backpacks at gossamergear.com. Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. [divider] Interview with David “Moondog” Roop Moondog's Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:03:01 - Reminders: Subscribe to the Trek’s newsletter to hear when the Tyvek wall is available, subscribe to us on YouTube, and apply to be a 2024 blogger! 00:05:35 - Introducing Moondog 00:06:00 - Tell us about Madrid, NM 00:09:21 - How did you get your trail name? 00:11:18 - How does thru-skating work? 00:16:00 - How many miles can you normally skate in a day? 00:16:44 - What was your backpacking experience prior to starting skateboarding? 00:17:50 - What muscles get sore after a full day of skateboarding? 00:19:06 - Do you factor in the weight of the board? 00:21:00 - How hard was the learning curve? 00:22:06 - How much of the trail do you need to skate to consider it a thru-skate? 00:24:38 - Tell us some wipeout stories 00:27:08 - Do wipeouts make you consider more what you wear? 00:29:20 - Compare and contrast the Florida Trail and the Natchez Trace 00:32:00 - Discussion about skating effort and strategy 00:34:03 - How was your experience doing a full trail end to end? 00:36:00 - Discussion about wildlife on the Florida Trail 00:37:05 - Do you ever have gear malfunctions with the skateboard? 00:38:23 - Discussion about ultra skating 00:40:10 - Are there any interesting things skaters do that hikers don’t? 00:42:13 - Tell us about your New Mexico thru-skate 00:45:12 - What portion was hiking versus skating? 00:46:50 - What’s a standout moment you’ve had while thru-skating? 00:49:30 - How did you land on the Natchez Trace Trail? 00:51:12 - What’s the best time of year to do it? 00:52:22 - Have you considered using a mountain board to do something more rugged? 00:53:20 - How do you protect your board? 00:55:00 - How would you design your dream board? 00:55:45 - What did you do in Puerto Rico? 00:57:26 - What thru-skates are on your bucket list? Segments Trek Propaganda: The 2023 Appalachian Trail Thru-Hiker Survey: General Information Part 1 by Kate Richard QOTD: What’s the weirdest thing you’ve brought home on a night out? Triple Crown of our presidential campaign promises Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Ironhike endurance productions, Jason “Snail” Snailer, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Hailey Buckingham, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S.
Jan 29
1 hr 48 min
Matt "Schmutz" Lyons on Becoming a Social Media Celebrity and Using Cringe Comedy to Trigger the Internet
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by someone you are likely already following on Instagram, Matt Lyons known on trail as "Schmutz". Schmutz is a thru-hiker, social media comedian and celebrity. He gives us an overview on his process for making short comedic skits, how life has changed during his rise to fame, and all that's gone into growing his Instagram and TikTok to nearly a half million followers. We also learn about Matt's backpacking journey, including the time he had to tearfully chase a fellow thru-hiker who was carrying his tent in the wrong direction. Schmutz also gives us a preview of his forthcoming documentary about southbound thru-hiking the PCT. We wrap the show opining on why there aren't wild chickens, the triple crown of things that have made us question our own IQs, and some details about how you can get your hands on Backpacker Radio's infamous hair wall. Sawyer Products: Check out Sawyer’s Permethrin Pump at REI. Gossamer Gear: Use code “TAKELESSTREKMORE” for 15% off at gossamergear.com.  Ka’Chava: Get 10% off at kachava.com/backpacker. Badger + Chaunce Signed Book Package: Use code “LITTLEDONKEYGIRL” for $5 off and get a BPR sticker at store.thetrek.co. [divider] Interview with Matt “Schmutz” Lyons Matt's Instagram Matt's Merch Time stamps & Questions 00:03:48 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for bonus content, subscribe to the Trek’s newsletter to hear when the Tyvek wall is available, and apply to be a 2024 blogger! 00:06:45 - Introducing Matt 00:07:35 - How long do you spend planning out the names in your videos? 00:09:20 - Do you have a background in comedy? 00:11:33 - Have you been told your voice is good for audio? 00:12:38 - Does your girlfriend think you’re funny? 00:14:32 - What’s your background in the outdoors? 00:16:30 - How many of your videos involve making fun of yourself? 00:19:26 - Have you ever made too much fun of a group or activity? 00:23:48 - How would you describe your skits? 00:25:55 - Was there a turning point when your comedy became more professional? 00:27:20 - What’s it like to make social content while teaching middle schoolers? 00:32:54 - Tell us the story of you forgetting your tent in Stehekin 00:37:30 - Tell us about getting a boat hitch 00:39:30 - Tell us about starting the AT in 2019 00:42:36 - Would you describe yourself as an extrovert? 00:44:00 - What were your biggest fuckups and standout stories on the AT? 00:47:17 - How did you get your trail name? 00:50:08 - What’s your most embarrassing moment from trail? 00:51:01 - What years did you hike the PCT? 00:53:25 - What was your social experience like on the PCT? 00:57:30 - What was your motivation for thru-hiking? 00:58:20 - Have you ever shit your pants? 01:00:40 - Discussion about Schmutz’s diet off and on trail 01:02:40 - What are some other firm beliefs you have? 01:03:35 - Have you built up your dream gear? 01:07:18 - Do you have a next trail on the bucket list? 01:08:20 - Tell us about the documentary 01:13:20 - Will the documentary be comedic? 01:15:14 - Is it hard to pass off footage to other people? 01:17:20 - How did you manage your knee? 01:19:10 - Tell us about Frontcountry Apparel 01:21:00 - Which videos did better than you expected? 01:23:05 - Are thru-hiking videos too niche for your audience now? 01:25:00 - Discussion about Matt’s video making process 01:29:01 - How often do people recognize you? 01:30:27 - How do you handle working with brands? Segments Trek Propaganda: How Fast is too Fast? 6 Lessons from a Sub-80 Day Thru-Hike by Isabel Koran QOTD: Why aren’t there wild chickens? Triple Crown of things that have made you question your own IQ Mail Bag [divider] Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross. Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Ironhike endurance productions, Jason “Snail” Snailer, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Hailey Buckingham, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Peter, and Ruth S.
Jan 22
2 hr 7 min
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